Housecalls Notes (Thread 3)

[Shirz]

awww not shadowwwwww

"Kathleen" (10:12:44 PM): sheila
"Kathleen" (10:12:48 PM): omg
"Kathleen" (10:12:52 PM): if shadow leaves
Shir z z z 9 (10:13:09 PM):
Shir z z z 9 (10:15:24 PM): what happens
Shir z z z 9 (10:15:29 PM): is jason using veto?
"Kathleen" (10:16:48 PM): i think so
"Kathleen" (10:16:50 PM): omg
"Kathleen" (10:16:53 PM): wtf
"Kathleen" (10:16:54 PM): did ido
Shir z z z 9 (10:17:21 PM): what do u mean
Shir z z z 9 (10:17:23 PM): who leaves?
"Kathleen" (10:17:35 PM): shadow leaves
"Kathleen" (10:17:35 PM): but
"Kathleen" (10:17:40 PM): i promised him hes safe
"Kathleen" (10:17:40 PM): wtf

kathleen is so pisseddddd... but honestlyyyyy, she is in a better position to make it to f2 now... she or animal need to win veto this week though

[Jen]

Idk why no one thinks Britti leaving would have benefitted Kathleen? lol. Britti wouldnt take Kathleen in f4/3 in a million years lol.

but god, poor Shadow. he's so upset, too.

[James]

Would it not be a better move for Sheila to take out Ryan? Why not make a deal with Shadow, and break up a for sure final 2 like Kathleen/Animal. I mean seriously. All Sheila is doing is helping Kathleen and Animal make final 2.

[KC]

Apr 27, 2009 22:57:26 GMT -5 Jen said:

Idk why no one thinks Britti leaving would have benefitted Kathleen? lol. Britti wouldnt take Kathleen in f4/3 in a million years lol.

but god, poor Shadow. he's so upset, too.

I do think it benefits her. Over Shadow? No. Shadow hates Kathleen/Animal atm and is 10x stronger in competitions. That's not to say I have no sympathy for him, I do. It's really hard seeing him being screwed over like that because it's happened to me before too.

I see the point about taking out Ryan...and I do actually think that'd be a really smart power move in doing that. However, at the same time, Alex has been a beast in competitions this season and taking him out now may be the last chance. I mean the next veto is puzzle and one of the HOH parts is an endurance. He's a heavy favorite to make it to the end at this point if he should survive.

[Shirz]

lol i know joe.
i completely agree. the smarter thing to do here is get rid of ryan... sheila could make a deal that shadow could potentially follow through with, as opposed to ryan who doesnt have much to offer when everyone and their mothers know that ryan and alison are F2.

[Shirz]

wait.. ANOTHER puzzle

[KC]

Well a mental/puzzle w/e sort of challenge. You know the the one where they have to put the face to the event or some shit.

I like Shadow's PM to Jason and it has a lot of good points. What I didn't think of before, he should be guaranteed final three if he gets rid of Ryan. Shadow haaaaates Kathleen right, Natalie has never got along with her, and Kathleen would take both of those out over Jason even if he backstabbed Ryan. I dunno, I think making a play here would be a really smart decision. I said in the beginning of the week Sheila needs to drop the target off Alex, I'm going to go back to that statement and say she should atleast consider going after him next week.

[Jen]

I was thinking that, too. I know Shadow is a beast in competitions, and it's REALLY hard to look past that so late in the game. but not impossible, Jason just beat him. I can see it and understand it from both sides, but I think this may be the perfect opportunity to take out Ryan and break up him and Kathleen, that does put him in a situation where he's guarenteed final 3. I'm not entirely sure Animal wouldn't take Britti in final 4 anyways. she's easier to beat, he has a better connection with her, guarentees him f2. who knows what Kathleen would do. but it's clear Shadow AND Britti wouldn't take Kathleen. taking Shadow he'd be guarenteed since Kathleen cant win HOH, rather than having to rely on a win.

Idk both ways could benefit him. but I think keeping Animal gives them the win and makes things harder on himself. take Shadow, guarentee yourself final 3, and then try to get him out next week. it's not impossible, Jason did just beat him in a competition I assumed Shadow would in Jason should at least weigh all his options.

gah I dont want Shadow to go.

[KC]

If Jason wasn't considering this, he would have voted before he left. I think Shadow has a really strong case and if he's able to pull an impossible situation in his favor here, big props to him. Kathleen going back on her word multiple times only for him to be responsible for her accidentally backdooring her #1 would be the purist form of justice

[Shirz]

i definitely think it would be a better move to get rid of animal this week because of his connection with kathleen, but jason seems to think that kat and shadow are super tight cuz she fought so hard for him to be safe.. so i dont know if he would actually go through with this.

also, i am not totally convinced that kat would choose jason over shadow/britti. i still think she would pick shadow over the 2 of them, but we'll see

[Jen]

here's my thing...
Jason has a better shot of Kathleen taking him over Shadow than him over Animal lol.

say Britti wins HOH... Jason HAS to beat Kathleen and Animal, neither would take him. Britti most likely aint gonna win POV for him either. Shadow would though.

Shadow and Britti BOTH, would take him over Kathleen [who can't win HOH]. so his odds are better with Shadow than Animal.

and, even if Shadow beats him at HOH then I see him guarenteed f3, and he wont NEED to win POV: Britti and Kathleen would both take him over the other. so like, his big thing is Shadow is the biggest competition to beat him in HOH... if Shadow wins he doesn't even need to win POV he's clinched f3. if Britti wins, maybe he'd have to worry about Kathleen taking Shadow, but Idk it could go either way. and like I said, him/Shadow vs Kathleen is MUCH better than him vs Kathleen/Animal lol.

all ways you look at it, evicting Animal IMO gives him much better odds at making f3 and makes it so he doesn't have to win.

... but he evicted Shadow. wrong move, IMO. guess we'll see if it works out. all of his unsure decisions have worked out for him so far

[Shirz]

yea i definitely agree with you. it would have been way smarter for him to evict ryan over shadow lol... just like all those examples you mentioned.
i dont think he thought this one through enough.

[Jen]

um Shadow and Britti offered to give Jason hoh? LOL JASON WTF he should evict Animal lol.

[Shirz]

oh my god
i think i broke a nail
the sun, i swear, is bleaching out my hairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
gosh, i forgot the rest of the words

[KC]

Yeah at this point it's crystal clear what the right move is. Even if he's worried about the final two, I could honestly see Jason beating Shadow in the F2 with ease. He already has Amanda and will probably get Kathleen, Zack, and Cody along with him.