Housecalls Notes (Thread 3)

[KC]

Apr 14, 2009 19:56:34 GMT -5 Watermelon said:

IHATE THAT HE WON HOH
MY SHEILA IS IN DANGER

I've been rooting for Jason too so this is a bit of a tense week for me lolz

Should be interesting. Honestly Allison/Ryan would be stupid to take out Jason, and I'm not being biased saying that. He's a floater that is going after Alex hardcore. Sharon/Natalie are a pair that are both gunning for Allison/Ryan. Breaking a promise obviously is never good but at this point, outsmart Alex to making a stupid move and he's a sitting duck next week.

[Jen]

[KC]

What's that for?

I'm being unbiased of coarse, I'm not rooting for Shadow to fail. Just my outside-looking-in perspective.

[Jen]

..obviously.

anyways.

I HOPE this season breaks the final 5 HOH wins. I'm so sick of that, how annoying. and Shadow can't compete. =/

[Watermelon]

Hopefully sheila wins

[Shirz]

i love how we are all rooting for different people to win haha.

"Kathleen" (7:44:28 AM): shadow is gonna get rid of me at f4 lolz
"Kathleen" (7:45:55 AM): this week im keeping sheila
"Kathleen" (7:46:00 AM): despite shadow wishes
Shir z z z 9 (7:46:10 AM): oh lol
"Kathleen" (7:46:24 AM): cuz
"Kathleen" (7:46:27 AM): i asked him
"Kathleen" (7:46:29 AM): who the replacement was
"Kathleen" (7:46:31 AM): and he goes i dont know
"Kathleen" (7:46:33 AM): when its either
"Kathleen" (7:46:36 AM): me, britti or animal
"Kathleen" (7:46:37 AM): like WTF
Shir z z z 9 (7:46:40 AM): LMAO
"Kathleen" (7:46:41 AM): u dont tell me that asshole ow
"Kathleen" (7:46:52 AM): then im like
"Kathleen" (7:46:54 AM): well its kinda obvious..
"Kathleen" (7:46:58 AM): if ure with me and animal
"Kathleen" (7:46:59 AM): and he goes
"Kathleen" (7:47:03 AM): i dont want britti to leave
"Kathleen" (7:47:05 AM): so i was like
Shir z z z 9 (7:47:10 AM): lol
"Kathleen" (7:47:29 AM): whoever is the replacement leaves lol
"Kathleen" (7:47:34 AM): unless its nat
"Kathleen" (7:47:37 AM): then it could be shar
Shir z z z 9 (7:47:43 AM):
Shir z z z 9 (7:47:49 AM): u would evict sharon over nat?
"Kathleen" (7:48:08 AM): no lol
"Kathleen" (7:48:13 AM): im just saying its a possibility lol
"Kathleen" (7:48:40 AM): but if me and animal get put up
"Kathleen" (7:48:43 AM): then we're basically gawn
"Kathleen" (7:48:49 AM): ya know
Shir z z z 9 (7:49:40 AM):
"Kathleen" (7:50:06 AM): but for him saying that
"Kathleen" (7:50:08 AM): it made up my mind
"Kathleen" (7:50:14 AM): that sheila is staying dis week lol
"Kathleen" (7:50:30 AM): plus i feel guilty evicting jasonlicioous after he kept me


so yea... sheila wont be leaving this week. there is NO way. if veto is used, no matter who is up against sheila, that person leaves... including the current nominee.
so.. im gonna root for animal or kat to win veto this week.
also.. BAD move by shadow with his response to kat lol... that sealed it.

[KC]

Regardless of what Shadow said, Kathleen & Animal would be complete boneheads to keep Natalie/Sharon in tact going into the final five. It'll be 2 vs 2 in the HOH. Why risk that? Make a ballsy move, nothing Shadow can do about it. He's probably already kicking himself in the nuts that he can't compete in this upcoming endurance.

With this competition being speed, I see Shadow winning it. Not sure what exactly he's gonna do, he may pull funny business and put Kathleen up if he suspects they're lying. But, if he thinks it all goes to plan, he's gonna get blindsided at this upcoming eviction.

[Jen]

bleh Kathleen's getting super cocky again. uh how was that a bad move to tell Allison that? it really didn't do anything lol. its OBVIOUS Kathleen would look for reasons to break her word to Shadow this week... plain and simple she would do it no matter what, as she said, she just found herself an excuse now. Shadow's in a tough spot with the nominee no matter what. and anyways, it's not Kathleen's vote he's concerned about, it's Animal's.

anyways. that's annoying and hypocritical. Animal and Kat expect Shadow to be there when they need him, and disappear when they don't. cuz while Jason kept her... Shadow did too, and went against Britti/Andii by doing so, and Kathleen gives zero thanks to him. >

ohwellz, Idc who wins veto. nothing works out in Shadow's favor.

[Shirz]

shadow reassured kat and had kat reassure him that it was them 3 to the end. if he in fact was 100% to the f3 (which kat was btw, cuz she told me), he wouldnt have hesitated over who he was gonna put up as replacement if they are in fact f3, then it should be obvious that nat is replacement.
if veto gets used, i see him putting animal up over kat and animal would actually stay...

[KC]

Yeah it was kind of a foot inserted into mouth moment, but I completely agree about her trying to find excuses to do what she'll inevitably do all the long. Everyone that goes against her is "stupid" and "retarded". Both her and Animal could, for the most part, do no wrong. That's just their personalities in games sometimes.

Overall though, Shadow needs to learn to lie sometimes. Lie about it for now and then just make an excuse later when it does happen. Veto is a long way away, a lot can change. Telling a supposed ally that they may go up on the block as opposed to one of their biggest enemies pretty much just cements where loyalty is going in the group. It just made Shadow look bad, regardless of what Kathleen's true intentions were.

[Jen]

yeah Kathleen has stated a couple times she wants them as f3, but she doesn't have loyalty to Shadow or she wouldn't be lying to him. she was working him the minute she tried to get his vote and she told me that, she told both Jason and Shadow the same things and really, aren't loyal to either. she even said in her DR she was gonna vote to keep Jason [against Shadow's wishes] and wanted him to stay before this convo even happened. that convo where Shadow didn't reassure Kathleen is just an excuse/out for her to do what she would have already done. so, I don't see it as justified by Kathleen or a bad move on Shadow's part. the minute he officially won HOH I posted here that this most likely wont work out for Sheila to go... it's nothing he's done wrong, it's just the situation he's in with Andii/Britti vs Kathleen/Animal.

while Kathleen would never admit this... Shadow IS right. if he puts up Britti, Britti's gone. and that doesn't help Shadow's game at all, whatsoever. I know Kathleen's used to having people play for her, but she can't expect Shadow to do that. it's not as if he wants either of them gone, he simply hasn't thought out the scenarios and what not. but anyways, I'm not saying he should or shouldn't have lied... I'm just saying I don't think it really changed anything or was a bad move, because this would be happening either way.

[Shirz]

yea, i see what you're saying. i know that this could all just be an excuse, but it still gives kathleen a way out of it. if it comes down to it and she screws him over, she has something to hold over his head.. and technically, he doesnt have a right to get mad. WE know what her intentions were from the getgo, but shadow doesnt.. kat can use this against him and even use this as an excuse to get rid of him before f3 (which btw.. she already mentioned probably wanting sheila f3 instead of him cuz of this).

[Jen]

but that's what I'm trying to say... it would be happening either way, so I don't see it as Shadow did anything wrong. all he did, was be upfront and HONEST with her like a real ally, rather than lying to her. Kathleen looks for excuses to get out of things, that's what social players do lol. it gives Kathleen a way of doing it without looking bad to him.. or so that he can't get mad but reallly... what does that matter? lol. and call me crazy... but if Jason uses POV and Kathleen goes up after Shadow had said "Britti will be the replacement"... that just angers Kathleen even more and gives her even more of an excuse for the things you listed. =/ JMO.

[Shirz]

it could matter if next week kat has to choose between shadow and jason.
i agree with kc.. sometimes lying isnt half bad. i wouldnt consider shadow being upfront something a good ally wouild do when the thing he is being upfront about is that he is ditching his supposed ally for someone else lol... a good ally, sticks by their allies (not that i think shadow should or has to lol)

[Jen]

well, Kathleen doesn't stick by him. and she just expects him to do the same. and he didn't even say he was ditching her. he said he didn't know yet. anyways..